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GitHub Reviews Gripes

Update: I want to keep the original post intact, but I'll post any feature updates that GitHub makes here as they are released.

GitHub recently rolled out a new feature on their pull requests called "Reviews". The feature is (in theory), something that I've been asking for. However, it really falls short in a big way, and I wanted to write down my gripes with it, in the hopes that it spurs someone at GitHub to fix it.

If you don't know, GitHub has had, for some time, a feature called "pull requests" ("PRs"), which lets you quite nicely show the diff and commit differences between two branches before merging them. People can comment on pull requests, or on individual lines in the diff. Once an administrator feels that the pull request is "ready", they can click a button and have the branch automatically merged.

The concept seems super simple in retrospect, but this feature completely revolutionized open source software development. It really is the bread and butter of GitHub. I would argue that this one single feature has made GitHub the (the) primary hosting site for open source software.

Aside from being an awesome idea, GitHub's trademark with pull requests, along with their other features, has been absolute simplicity in implementation. GitHub Reviews marks, by my estimation, the first major feature released by GitHub that completely and utterly lacks in this execution of simplicity.

Let's look at what Reviews is. When the feature first came out, I had a hard time figuring out how it even worked (the poor release date docs didn't help here either).

Basically, at the bottom of a pull request, you now see this

Clicking the "Add your review" button takes you to the diff page (first gripe: why does it move you to the diff page?), and opens this dialog

"OK", you might think, "this is simple enough. A review is just a special comment box where I can approve or reject a pull request." (This is basically the feature that I've been wanting, the ability to approve or reject pull requests.) And if you thought that, you'd be wrong.

The simplest way I can describe a review, having played with it, is that it is a distinct method of commenting on pull requests and on lines of diffs of pull requests. Distinct, that is, from the methods that already exist in the GitHub pull requests feature. That's right. There are now two ways to comment on a pull request (or on a line in a pull request). There's the old way, which involves typing text into the box at the bottom of the main pull request page (or on a line, and then pressing "Add a single comment"), and the new way, which involves clicking a special button at the top of the diff view (and the diff view only) (or by clicking a line in the diff and clicking "Start a review").

How do these two ways of the extremely simple task of commenting differ from one another? Two ways. One, with the old way, when you comment on a PR (or line), the comment is made immediately. It's saved instantly to the GitHub database, and a notification email is sent to everyone subscribed to the PR. With the new way, the comment is not made immediately. Instead, you start a "review", which postpones all comments from being published until you scroll to the top and press a button ("Review changes"). Did you forget to scroll to the top and press that button? Oh well, your comments never got sent to anyone.

Now, I've been told by some people that delayed commenting is a feature that they like. I can see how fewer total emails could be nice. But if you just want a way to delay comments, why do you need distinct commenting UIs? Couldn't the same thing be achieved via a user setting (I highly suspect that any given person will either like or dislike delayed commenting universally)? Or with a checkbox next to the comment button, like "delay notifications for this comment"? You can probably guess by now which of the two commenting systems I prefer. But guess what happens when I press the "Cmd-Enter" keyboard shortcut that's been hard-wired into my brain to submit a comment? I'll give you a hint: the result does not make me happy.

The second distinction between normal, old-fashioned commenting and the new-fangled reviews system is that when you finalize a review, you can elect to "approve" or "reject" the pull request. This approval or rejection gets set as a special status on the pull request. This status, for me personally, is the only feature here that I've been wanting. It turns out, however, that it's completely broken, and useless.

Here's my problem. We have, at the time of writing, 382 open pull requests in SymPy. A lot of these are old, and need to be triaged. But the problem from my point of view is the new ones. When I look through the list of pull requests, I want to be able to know, at a glance, which ones are "reviewable". For me, this means two things

  1. The tests pass.

  2. No other reviewer (myself included) has already requested changes, which still need to be made by the PR author.

Point 1 is really easy to see. In the pull request list, there is a nice green checkmark if Travis passed and a red X if it failed.

The second point is a disaster. Unfortunately, there's no simple way to do this. You might suggest adding a special label, like "Needs changes", to pull requests that have been reviewed. The problem with this is that the label won't go away when the changes have been made. And to worsen things, people who don't have push access (in the list above, only two PR authors have push access, and one of them is me), cannot add or remove labels on pull requests.

Another thing that has been suggested to me is an external "review" service that sets a status for a review. The problem with this (aside from the fact that I couldn't find one that actually did the very simple thing that I wanted), is that you now have to teach all your pull request reviewers to use this service. You might as well forget about it.

Having a first-class way in GitHub for reviewers to say "I approve these changes" or "I don't approve these changes" would be a huge boon, because then everyone would use it.

So great right, this new Reviews feature is exactly what you want, you say. You can now approve or reject pull requests.

Well no, because GitHub managed to overengineer this feature to the point of making it useless. This completely simple feature. All they had to do was extend the status UI and add a simple "I approve/I reject" button. If they did that, it would have worked perfectly.

Here are the problems. First, the pull request list has no indication of review status. Guess which pull requests in the above screenshot have reviews (and which are positive and which are negative). You can't tell (for example, the last one in the list has a negative review). If they were actually treated like statuses, like the UI suggests that they would, you would at least see an X on the ones that have negative reviews (positive reviews I'm much less worried about; most people who review PRs have merge access, so if they like the PR they can just merge it). I would suggest to GitHub to add, next to the status checkbox, a picture of everyone who's made a review on the PR, with a green checkmark or red X to indicate the type of review. Also, add buttons (buttons, not just buried advanced search options) to filter by reviews.

OK, so that's a minor UI annoyance, but it gets worse. Next on the docket, you can't review your own pull requests. It's not allowed for some reason.

Now why would you want to review your own pull request, you might ask? Aren't you always going to "approve" your own PR? Well, first off, no. There is such a thing as a WIP PR. The author setting a negative review on his own PR would be a great way to indicate WIP status (especially given the way reviews work, see my next gripe). Secondly, the "author" of a pull request is just the person who clicked the "New pull request" button. That's not necessarily the only person who has changes in the pull request. Thanks to the magic of how git works, it's quite easy to have a pull request with commits from many people. Multiple people pushing to a shared branch, with a matching pull request for discussion (and easy viewing of new commits and diff) is a valid and useful workflow (it's the only one I know of that works for writing collaborative prose). For the SymPy paper, I wanted to use GitHub Reviews to sign off on a common branch, but since I'm the one who started the pull request, I couldn't do it.

Next gripe, and this, I want to stress, makes the whole feature completely useless for my needs: reviews do not reset when new commits are pushed. Now, I just outlined above two use-cases where you might want to do a review that doesn't reset (marking WIP, and marking approval, although the second is debatable), but both of those can easily be done by other means, like editing the title of the PR, or old-fashioned commenting. The whole point of Reviews (especially negative reviews), you'd think, would be to indicate to people that the pull request, as it currently stands, needs new changes. A negative review is like failing your "human" test suite.

But unlike your automated test suite, which reset and get a new go every time you push a change (because hey, who knows, maybe the change ACTUALLY FIXED THE ISSUE), reviews do not reset, unless the original reviewers explicitly change them. So my dream of being able to glance at the pull request list and see which PRs need changes has officially been piped. Even if the list actually showed what PRs have been reviewed, it would be a lie, because as soon as the PR author pushes a change, the review status becomes potentially outdated.

Now, given the rocky start that this whole feature has had, I figured that this was probably just a simple bug. But after I reported it to GitHub, they've informed me that this is in fact intended behavior.

To make things worse, GitHub has another feature with Reviews, called required reviews. You can make it so that every pull request must receive at least one positive review and zero negative reviews before it can be merged (go to the branch settings for your repository). This works similar to required status checks, which make it so that your tests must pass before a PR can be merged. In practice, this means you need zero negative reviews, since anyone with push access could just do a positive review before merging (although annoyingly, you have to actually manually do it; IMHO, just requiring zero negative reviews should be sufficient, since merging is implicitly a positive review).

Now, you can see that the above "feature" of reviews not resetting breaks the whole thing. If someone negative reviews a PR, that one person has to go in and change their review before it can be merged. And even if the author pushes new changes to fix the issues outlined in the review, the PR cannot be merged until the reviewer resets it. So this actually makes the reviewing situation worse, because now anyone who reviews a pull request at any point in time has to go through with it all the way to the merge. I can't go to a PR that someone requested changes for, which were later made by the author, and merge it. I have to ping the reviewer and get them to change their review first. Needless to say, we do not have this feature enabled for SymPy's repo.

I think I maybe see the intended use-case here. You want to make it so that people's reviews are not forgotten or ignored. But that's completely foreign to my own problems. I trust the SymPy community, and the people who have push access to do due diligence before merging a pull request. And if a bad change gets in, we can revert it. Maybe this feature matters more for projects that continuously deploy. Likely most of the code internal at GitHub works like that. But guess what GitHub, most of the code on GitHub does not work like that. You need to rethink this feature to support more than just your use-cases.

I think starting simple, say, just a simple "approve/reject" button on each PR, which just adds an icon, and that's it, would have been a better approach. Then they could have listened to the feedback on what sorts of things people wanted it to be able to do (like setting a status, or showing up in the search list, or "delayed commenting" if that's really what people want). This is how GitHub used to do things. It's frustrating to see a feature implemented that doesn't (yet) do quite what you want, but it's even more frustrating to see a feature implemented that does all the things that you don't want.


Yes, I'm a little mad here. I hope you enjoyed my rant. Here are what I see as the problems with the "Reviews" feature. I don't know how to fix these problems (I'm not a UI/UX guy. GitHub supposedly hires them, though).

  • There are now two distinct ways to comment on a PR (delayed and non-delayed). There should be one (say, with a checkbox to delay commenting).

  • If you insist on keeping delayed commenting, let me turn it off by default (default = the Cmd-Enter keyboard shortcut).

  • The reviews button is buried on the diff page. I would put it under the main PR comment box, and just reuse the same comment box.

  • Reviews should show up in the pull request list. They should be filterable with a nice UI.

  • Let me review my own pull requests. These can be excluded from required reviews (that makes sense to me). Beyond that, there's no reason this shouldn't be allowed.

  • Don't require a positive review for required reviews, only zero negative reviews. Merging a PR is implicitly positively reviewing it.

  • Allow reviews to reset when new commits are pushed.

I get that the last point may not be what everyone wants. But GitHub needs to think about UI, and defaults here. Right now, the UI looks like reviews are like statuses, but they actually aren't because of this.

I am dispirited to see GitHub release such a broken feature, but even the best trip up sometimes. I'm not yet calling "doom" on GitHub. Everyone has their hockey puck mice. I'm actually hopeful that they can fix these issues, and implement a feature that makes real headway into helping me solve one of my biggest problems on GitHub right now, the reviewing of pull requests.


Today, David Beazley made some tweets:

There are quite a few good responses to these tweets, both from David and from others (and from yours truly). I recommend reading the the thread (click on the first tweet above).

Now to start off, I want to say that I respect the hell out of David Beazley. The guy literally wrote the book on Python, and he knows way more about Python than I ever will. He's also one of the most entertaining Python people you can follow on Twitter. But hey, that doesn't mean I can't disagree sometimes.

List vs. Tuple. Fight!

As you probably know, there are two "array" datatypes in Python, list and tuple.1 The primary difference between the two is that lists are mutable, that is you can change their entries and length after they are created, with methods like .append or +=. Tuples, on the other hand, are immutable. Once you create one, you cannot change it. This makes the implementation simpler (and hence faster, although don't let anyone tell you you should use a tuple just because it's faster). This, as Ned Batchelder points out, is the only technical difference between the two.

The the idea that particularly bugs me here is that tuples are primarily useful as "record" datatypes.

Tuples are awesome for records. This is both by design—since they have a fixed shape, the positions in a tuple can be "fixed" values, and by convention—if a Python programmer sees parentheses instead of square brackets, he is more likely to see the object as "record-like". The namedtuple object in the standard library takes the record idea further by letting you actually name the fields:

>>> from collections import namedtuple
>>> person = namedtuple('Person', 'name, age')
>>> person('Aaron', 26)
Person(name='Aaron', age=26)

But is that really the only place you'd want to use a tuple over a list?

Consider five other places you might encounter a tuple in Python, courtesy of Allen Downey:

In code these look like:

  1. Multiple assignments:

    >>> (a, b) = 1, 2

    (yes, the parentheses are optional here, as they are in many places where a tuple can be used, but this is still a tuple, or at least it looks like one ;)

  2. Multiple return values:

    For example, os.walk. This is for the most part a special case of using tuples as records.

  3. *args:

    >>> def f(*args):
    ...     print(type(args), args)
    >>> f(1, 2, 3)
    <class 'tuple'> (1, 2, 3)

    Arbitrary positional function arguments are always stored as a tuple.

  4. Return value from builtins zip, enumerate, etc.:

    >>> for i in zip(range(3), 'abc'):
    ...     print(i)
    (0, 'a')
    (1, 'b')
    (2, 'c')
    >>> for i in enumerate('abc'):
    ...     print(i)
    (0, 'a')
    (1, 'b')
    (2, 'c')

    This also applies to the combinatoric generators in itertools (like product, combinations, etc.)

  5. Dictionary keys:

    >>> {
    ...     (0, 0): '.',
    ...     (0, 1): ' ',
    ...     (1, 0): '.',
    ...     (1, 1): ' ',
    ... }
    {(0, 1): ' ', (1, 0): '.', (0, 0): '.', (1, 1): ' '}

This last one I find to be very important. You could arguably use a list for the first four of Allen Downey's points2 (or Python could have, if it wanted to). But it is impossible to meaningfully hash a mutable data structure in Python, and hashability is a requirement for dictionary keys.

However, be careful. Not all tuples are hashable. Tuples can contain anything, but only tuples of immutable values are hashable. Consider4

>>> t = (1, 2, [3, 4])
>>> t[2].append(5)
>>> t
(1, 2, [3, 4, 5])

Such tuples are not hashable, and cannot be used as dictionary keys.

>>> hash(t)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<ipython-input-39-36822ba665ca>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: unhashable type: 'list'

Why is list the Default?

My second gripe here is this notion that your default ordered collection object in Python should be list. tuples are only to be used as "records", or if you suspect might want to use it as a dictionary key. First off, you never know when you'll want something to be hashable. Both dictionary keys and sets require hashability. Suppose you want to de-duplicate a collection of sequences. If you represent the sequences with list, you'll either have to write a custom loop that checks for duplicates, or manually convert them to tuple and throw them in a set. If you start with tuple, you don't have to worry about it (again, assuming the entries of the tuples are all hashable as well).

Consider another usage of tuples, which I consider to be important, namely tree structures. Say you wanted a simple representation of a Python syntax tree. You might represent 1 - 2*(-3 + 4) as

('-', 1, ('*', 2, ('+', ('-', 3), 4)))

This isn't really a record. The meaning of the entries in the tuples is determined by the first value of the tuple, not position. In this example, the length of the tuple also signifies meaning (binary vs. unary -).

If this looks familiar to you, it's because this is how the language Lisp represents all programs. This is a common pattern. Dask graphs use tuples and dictionaries to represent computations. SymPy expression trees use tuples and Python classes to represent symbolic mathematical expressions.

But why use tuples over lists here? Suppose you had an object like the one above, but using lists: ['-', 1, ['*', 2, ['+', ['-', 3], 4]]]. If you discover you need to use this as a dictionary key, or want to put it in a set, you would need to convert this to a hashable object. To do this you need to write a function that recursively converts each list to a tuple. See how long it takes you to write that function correctly.

Mutability is Bad

More to the point, however, mutability is bad. I counted 12 distinct methods on list that mutate it (how many can you remember off the top of your head?3). Any function that gets access to a list can mutate it, using any one of these methods. All it takes is for someone to forget that += mutates a list (and that they should copy it first) for code completely distant from the origin definition to cause issues. The hardest bug I ever debugged had a three character fix, adding [:] to copy a global list that I was (accidentally) mutating. It took me a several hour airplane ride and some deep dark magic that I'll leave for another blog post to discover the source of my problems (the problems I was having appeared to be quite distant from the actual source).

A Better "Default"

I propose that Python code in general would be vastly improved if people used tuple as the default ordered collection, and only switched to list if mutation was necessary (it's less necessary than you think; you can always copy a tuple instead of mutating it). I agree with David Beazley that you don't "sometimes need a read only list". Rather, you "sometimes need a writable tuple".

This makes more sense than defaulting to list, and only switching to tuple when hashability is needed, or when some weird "rule of thumb" applies that says that you should use tuple if you have a "record". Maybe there's a good reason that *args and almost all builtin and standard library functions return tuples instead of lists. It's harder to accidentally break someone else's code, or have someone else accidentally break your code, when your data structures are immutable.


  1. I want to avoid saying "a tuple is an immutable list", since "list" can be interpreted in two ways, as an English word meaning "ordered collection" (in which case, the statement is true), or as the Python type list (in which case, the statement is false—tuple is not a subclass of list). 

  2. Yes,

    >>> [a, b] = 1, 2


  4. One of the tweets from the conversation:

    This is similar to this example. But it turns out this one doesn't work:

    >>> t = (1,2, [3, 4])
    >>> t[2] += [5,6]
    Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
    TypeError: 'tuple' object does not support item assignment

    I have no idea why. It seems to me that it should work. t[2] is a list and list has __iadd__ defined. It seems that Python gets kind of weird about things on the left-hand side of an assignment. EDIT: Here's why. 

Moving Away from Python 2

About a month ago I tweeted this:

EDIT: Some people have started working on making this happen. See

For those of you who don't know, Python 2.7 is slated to reach end-of-life in 2020 (originally, it was slated to end in 2015, but it was extended in 2014, due to the extraordinary difficulty of moving to a newer version). "End-of-life" means absolutely no more support from the core Python team, even for security updates.

I'm writing this post because I want to clarify why I think this should be done, and to clear up some misconceptions, the primary one being that this represents library developers being antagonistic against those who want or have to use Python 2.

I'm writing this from my perspective as a library developer. I'm the lead developer of SymPy, and I have sympathies for developers of other libraries.1 I say this because my idea may seem a bit in tension with "users" (even though I hate the "developer/user" distinction).

Python 2

There are a few reasons why I think libraries should drop (and announce that they will drop) Python 2 support by 2020 (actually earlier, say 2018 or 2019, depending on how core the library is).

First, library developers have to be the leaders here. This is apparent from the historical move to Python 3 up to this point. Consider the three (not necessarily disjoint) classes of people: CPython core developers, library developers, and users. The core developers were the first to move to Python 3, since they were the ones who wrote it. They were also the ones who provided the messaging around Python 3, which has varied over time. In my opinion, it should have been and should be more forceful.2 Then you have the library developers and the users. A chief difference here is that users are probably going to be using only one version of Python. In order for them to switch that version to Python 3, all the libraries that they use need to support it. This took some time, since library developers saw little impetus to support Python 3 when no one was using it (Catch 22), and to worsen the situation, versions of Python older than 2.6 made single codebase compatibility almost impossible.

Today, though, almost all libraries support Python 3, and we're reaching a point where those that don't have forks that do.

But it only happened after the library developers transitioned. I believe libraries need to be the leaders in moving away from Python 2 as well. It's important to do this for a few reasons:

  • Python 2.7 support ends in 2020. That means all updates, including security updates. For all intents and purposes, Python 2.7 becomes an insecure language to use at that point in time.

  • Supporting two major versions of Python is technical debt for every project that does it. While writing cross compatible code is easier than ever, it still remains true that you have to remember to add __future__ imports to the top of every file, to import all relevant builtins from your compatibility file or library, and to run all your tests in both Python 2 and 3. Supporting both versions is a major cognitive burden to library developers, as they always have to be aware of important differences in the two languages. Developers on any library that does anything with strings will need to understand how things work in both Python 2 and 3, and the often obscure workarounds required for things to work in both (pop quiz: how do you write Unicode characters to a file in a Python 2/3 compatible way?).

  • Some of Python 3's new syntax features (i.e., features that are impossible to use in Python 2) only matter for library developers. A great example of this is keyword-only arguments. From an API standpoint, almost every instance of keyword arguments should be implemented as keyword-only arguments. This avoids mistakes that come from the antipattern of passing keyword arguments without naming the keyword, and allows the argspec of the function to be expanded in the future without breaking API.3

The second reason I think library developers should agree to drop Python 2 support by 2020 is completely selfish. A response that I heard on that tweet (as well as elsewhere), was that libraries should provide carrots, not sticks. In other words, instead of forcing people off of Python 2, we should make them want to come to Python 3. There are some issues with this argument. First, Python 3 already has tons of carrots. Honestly, not being terrible at Unicode ought to be a carrot in its own right.4

If you don't deal with strings, or do but don't care about those silly foreigners with weird accents in their names, there are other major carrots as well. For SymPy, the fact that 1/2 gives 0 in Python 2 has historically been a major source of frustration for new users. Imagine writing out 1/2*x + x**(1/2)*y*z - 3*z**2 and wondering why half of what you wrote just "disappeared" (granted, this was worse before we fixed the printers). While integer/integer not giving a rational number is a major gotcha for SymPy, giving a float is infinitely better than giving what is effectively the wrong answer. Don't use strings or integers? I've got more.

Frankly, if these "carrots" haven't convinced you yet, then I'll wager you're not really the sort of person who is persuaded by carrots.

Second, some "carrots" are impossible unless they are implemented in libraries. While some features can be implemented in 2/3 compatible code and only work in Python 3 (such as @ matrix multiplication), others, such as keyword-only arguments, can only be implemented in code that does not support Python 2. Supporting them in Python 2 would be a net deficit of technical debt (one can imagine, for instance, trying to support keyword-only arguments manually using **kwargs, or by using some monstrous meta-programming).

Third, as I said, I'm selfish. Python 3 does have carrots, and I want them. As long as I have to support Python 2 in my code, I can't use keyword-only arguments, or extended argument unpacking, or async/await, or any of the dozens of features that can't be used in cross compatible code.

A counterargument might be that instead of blocking users of existing libraries, developers should create new libraries which are Python 3-only and make use of new exciting features of Python 3 there. I agree we should do that, but existing libraries are good too. I don't see why developers should throw out all of a well-developed library just so they can use some Python features that they are excited about.

Legacy Python

A lot of people have taken to calling Python 2 "legacy Python". This phrase is often used condescendingly and angers a lot of people (and indeed, this blog post is the first time I've used it myself). However, I think Python 2 really should be seen this way, as a "legacy" system. If you want to use it, for whatever your reasons, that's fine, but just as you shouldn't expect to get any of the newest features of Python, you shouldn't expect to be able to use the newest versions of your libraries. Those libraries that have a lot of development resources may choose to support older Python 2-compatible versions with bug and/or security fixes. Python 2 itself will be supported for these until 2020. Those without resources probably won't (keep in mind that you're using open source libraries without paying money for them).

I get that some people have to use Python 2, for whatever reasons. But using outdated software comes at a cost. Libraries have borne this technical debt for the most part thus far, but they shouldn't be expected to bear it forever. The debt will only increase, especially as the technical opportunity cost, if you will, of not being able to use newer and shinier versions of Python 3 grows. The burden will have to shift at some point. Those with the financial resources may choose to offload this debt to others,5 say, by backporting features or bugfixes to older library versions that support Python 2 (or by helping to move code to Python 3).

I want to end by pointing out that if you are, for whatever reason, still using Python 2, you may be worried that if libraries become Python 3-only and start using Python 3 features, won't that break your code? The answer is no. Assuming package maintainers mark the metadata on their packages correctly, tools like pip and conda will not install non-Python 2 compatible versions into Python 2.

If you haven't transitioned yet, and want to know more, a good place to start is the official docs. I also highly recommend using conda environments, as it will make it easy to separate your Python 2 code from your Python 3 code.


  1. With that being said, the opinions here are entirely my own, and are don't necessarily represent those of other people, nor do they represent official SymPy policy (no decisions have been made by the community about this at this time). 

  2. It often feels like core Python itself doesn't really want people to use Python 3. It's little things, like docs links that redirect to Python 2, or PEP 394, which still says that the python should always point to Python 2. 

  3. In Swift, Apple's new language for iOS and OS X, function parameter names are effectively "keyword-only" by default

  4. As an example of this, in conda, if you use Python 2 in the root environment, then installing into a path with non-ASCII characters is unsupported. This is common on Windows, because Windows by default uses the user's full name as the username, and the default conda install path is in the user directory.

    This is unsupported except in Python 3, because to fix the issue, every single place in conda where a string appears would have to be changed to use a unicode string in Python 2. The basic issue is that things like 'π' + u'i' raise UnicodeDecodeError in Python 2 (even though 'π' + 'i', u'π' + 'i', and u'π' + u'i' all work fine). You can read a more in-depth description of the problem here. Incidentally, this is also why you should never use from __future__ import unicode_literals in Python 2, in my opinion.

    I no longer work on conda, but as far as I know, the issue remains unfixed. Of course, this whole thing works just fine if conda is run in Python 3. 

  5. If that legitimately interests you, I hear Continuum may be able to help you.